a question for gw pros/veterans - Guild Wars Forums

rednfrosty · Mar 13, 2008, 09:44 PM // 21:44

I'm pretty new to the game, just got factions (yeah yeah I know, everyone keeps telling me it's the worst campaign. I'll get nightfall and prophecies soon enough lol). I recently got my character to level 20, took me a good few days to do so.

Anyway, I was just curious as to how players have so much gold. With the little amount of gold that quests and missions give, as well as having to constantly update your weapons/armor, I'm just amazed at how there are so many people who have hundreds of thousands, or even millions of gold.

Is it from playing for such a long time, that you've accumulated that much over the years? Do the quests/missions later on offer more gold? Is it really all just getting really good drops and selling them?

lol I'm not saying I want to become like a millionaire in like a day and such. I just want to make sure I'm doing all I can to make more gold, cause honestly, I only have like 15k. And probably 1/3 of that came from two other characters I deleted. Even the drops I get aren't that rare to sell for a lot.So I'm wondering if I'm really doing enough. Armor and weapons cost so much, the materials too, so I'm just bewildered at how people can have that much gold to spend. Like right now I can't even upgrade my armor at Kaineng Center @_@.

Anyway I was just wondering if any of you can give a newbie like me some advice. It's greatly appreciated =)

Keekles · Mar 13, 2008, 09:46 PM // 21:46

Most of my money has come through playing through the campaigns on my characters. Lately, the largest source of income has been vanquishing, but I'm not exactly rich either. There's also farming that can generate money (I don't like farming though).

EDIT: after playing since the game came out I'm still very poor =P

Alex the Great · Mar 13, 2008, 09:47 PM // 21:47

solo farming and high-end areas give a lot of gold. doing dungeons and getting the rewards (you must get Eotn) can get you some golds.

you're lucky you got factions, because many of the needed farming skills come from there.

I complteted factions on my warrior, and he made a total of 35k just doing missions and quests, so there is still hope.

Destromath · Mar 13, 2008, 09:48 PM // 21:48

I haven't really done it myself, but most of those people grind for it over the years. A popular way is to kill the Smite Crawlers in the Underworld as fast as you can for Globs of Ectoplasm. In fact, some people even record their times to see if it can be beaten >_>. Each ecto costs around 5k, so the money from farming Smites accumulates greatly over time.

There's also just looking at what's in demand and farming for it as much as possible, then sell it for a high price. Chaos Axes, Dead Bows, and Voltaic Spears are very high in demand currently, I think (although any pros should correct me if I'm wrong about this).

quickmonty · Mar 13, 2008, 09:52 PM // 21:52

Just play the game, pick up everything that drops and don't buy anything you don't need. You should have enough for all your needs. After you have max armor, weapons and needed runes you should start accumulating some gold to store away.

You may not get rich, but it isn't necessary to enjoy the game.

Those that have a lot are sucessful farmers or high end traders.

C R A F T · Mar 13, 2008, 09:54 PM // 21:54

I've only been playing for 27 months and I've gone from poor to rich to poor so many times I don't count anymore.

Once you get your max armor (with all the runes and insignias) and max weapons (with max mods) it's time to settle down and make some gleaming gold!!!

If money is the goal: make a MM Necro and go soloing. The more people in your party the more the loot gets distributed (even to henchies and heroes, minions don't count).

Learn what to salvage and what to sell. Before selling a piece of armor with a rune on it, check the value of the rune to see if its worth salvaging and selling independently.

Don't sell materials to a merchant, to the the (rare) material dealer and get a much better exchange rate.

Use the auction board to sell stuff for greater value than a merchant will give you.

The farther you get in the game, the more valuable the drops will be: good things come to those who wait.

Kook~NBK~ · Mar 13, 2008, 09:55 PM // 21:55

If you've got 15k after only palying for such a short amount of time, I'd say you're doing OK.

rednfrosty · Mar 13, 2008, 10:09 PM // 22:09

wow thanks for the advice everyone. I didn't expect this many comments so soon =) I guess I'll have to keep playing and see what fortune lies ahead lol.

Getting rich isn't necessarily my goal in gw (of course there's more to the game than just getting gold ^_^), it's more like, I want to have enough money to buy great armor/weapons without ending up broke every time I do so.

Perhaps I should just be patient. ^^ It seems many of you have earned your gold over the course of time. I guess it just needs hard work and persistence. I've still got a long way ahead of me, only just finished the 4th mission. Hopefully by then I'll have been more experienced with selling and farming and such.

again, thanks for the advice everyone. greatly appreciate you all taking the time to read and seriously respond =)

gremlin · Mar 13, 2008, 10:17 PM // 22:17

They Farm for valuables for many hours usually in hard mode then they research item prices and do hard trading also for hours.

The game is perfectly playable without having to become the gw equivalent of king midas, so its no big deal.

I mean how much money does one character need, max armour and a few weapons are easy and the spells/skills are the only continuing drain on cash.

Now if you want half a dozen suits of elite armour on all your henchemen for all you characters then you need to farm a lot then trade a lot.

You will end up bored out of your mind with all the glitzy and glamorous items and maybe you will feel it was worth doing boring tasks many times over.

Personally I think those that do that need therapy as such effort is only worth it for real money and to feed your family.

Kerwyn Nasilan · Mar 13, 2008, 10:21 PM // 22:21

Once (or if) you get EotN Ursan Blessing can make you lot sof money in DoA. Despite it's easyness and the drop of gems it is still a valuble source of cash. Got my new tormented sword worth bout 100k+10-15 ectos in a week of doing runs in my spare time (I do have alot of spare time though

) My next goal is obby which I hope to have in a few weeks. (DoA=Domain Of Anguish, end area of Nightfall and Ursan is an elite skill that replaces your bar with imba ursan skills)
The way of getting massive money is High end trading, but that is just not feasible for some people.

Dem Babyz Iz Mine · Mar 13, 2008, 10:29 PM // 22:29

New weapons are fun and all, but unless it looks TOTALLY BITCHIN' I say...
If it hurts, it works

And farming is boring

Crom The Pale · Mar 13, 2008, 11:33 PM // 23:33

Once you have Money it's rather easy to make money. Sounds a bit like real life but it is true.

Once you've aquired enough wealth to purchase Max weapons + Max Mods for them and Max armor + the best Runes/Insignias you can basically just bank every gold coin from that point on untill something catches your eye and you spend it all. Then your back to banking every coin you earn.

When I first started it took weeks for me to earn enough money to buy max weapons/armor and I still didn't have perfect mods for them. I took me almost 2 months to buy my guild hall and a full year to afford FoW armor.

Now that I've got some nice weapons/armor and my hall is fully equiped I can bank 100K in a week with very little effort.

jiggles · Mar 14, 2008, 02:15 AM // 02:15

I agree with Crom, i owed a guild 158k as he lent me it for fow armour within a week or farming whenever i could be bothered and just questing whenever i wanted i only owed him 50k. Making money gets eaiser the longer you play.

I'd also like to point out that factions newb island is the best for money as most of the quests give you a couplea hundred gold each. and as for 15k in a couple days, back when i started playing i thought 5k was a crapload of money for at least 4months

tmakinen · Mar 14, 2008, 06:08 AM // 06:08

One important point is to realize that raising a character up to his/her full glory is pretty expensive, anything between 100k and 300k or even beyond depending on the number of skills you want to acquire. Any fancy armor and equipment past the standard (and perfectly adequate) fare comes on top of that. Thus it is nothing alarming if you're living from hand to mouth for a while. Once your character matures there's nothing else to dump money into than vanity items and as long as you keep playing the game normally the money will accumulate. Farming is strictly optional.

masta_yoda · Mar 14, 2008, 07:07 AM // 07:07

some 'oldschool' players have alot of money cause they farmed crazily b4 prot bond was nerfed..........

Admael · Mar 14, 2008, 07:22 AM // 07:22

Not to mention depreciation of items/gold. I made a lot off runes and upgrades as well.

I remember spending 65k to buy a "perfect" vampiric bow string.

**Marty Silverblade** · Mar 14, 2008, 07:22 AM // 07:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by masta_yoda

some 'oldschool' players have alot of money cause they farmed crazily b4 prot bond was nerfed..........

Also, some players who were around when the trader prices dropped to 250g due to some bug/thing the first time around when Anet didn't roll back the servers gained thousands of plat overnight.

IslandHermet · Mar 14, 2008, 02:13 PM // 14:13

lots of money comes from many different sources.

power trade (take 20k and turn it into a mill) most people power trade mini pets even the low end ones can get you started (bought a joko for 8k then sold it for 60k)

Elite pve farming (once you get to the areas like UW,Fow,doa,urgoz,deep and get to know the areas you can bring in some very good money)

Farming (doing this in a area in which you can kill 30 creatures real quick like a few mins and pick up all the drops, if you do this for a hour a day you can make very good money) most solo farms bring in 20k a hour or more depending on the area and how fast the build works.

quests with rewards near 1-2k (doing dungeons most of the quests give 1.5k or a little more)

Hard mode farming (this is good for gold farming as in gold weapons which can be sold for 4k for 7 or something like that)

NM and HM Dungeons
and of course the luck of a good drop helps alot.

Molock · Mar 14, 2008, 03:57 PM // 15:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kerwyn Nasilan

Once (or if) you get EotN Ursan Blessing can make you lot sof money in DoA. Despite it's easyness and the drop of gems it is still a valuble source of cash. Got my new tormented sword worth bout 100k+10-15 ectos in a week of doing runs in my spare time (I do have alot of spare time though

) My next goal is obby which I hope to have in a few weeks. (DoA=Domain Of Anguish, end area of Nightfall and Ursan is an elite skill that replaces your bar with imba ursan skills)
The way of getting massive money is High end trading, but that is just not feasible for some people.

Please don't go an tell him to get Ursan already. He hasn't been playing long and really has a lot to learn. When using Ursan you aren't learning the true mechanics and way of playing... Ursan is for veteran players who have grown to lazy to actually play and only want to finish everything with as little effort as possible.

Please OP, actually play the game with more than ONE skill... at least for a while before becoming corrupted with Ursan..

llsektorll · Mar 14, 2008, 04:54 PM // 16:54

I am a farming hater so i never farmed anything till GWEN. I usually wait till a campaign releases then make money.

Ok so before factions came out I ran Dunes of Despair mission a good 70x made around 600k.

After factions I joined a luxon owning alliance to go into the deep and in one night of selling celestial weapons I made 900k (in 5hrs).

NF came out I started running Gate of Anguish mission for 27k per run (40min runs). Did that around 80+ times... netting me near 2000k. I also found people willing to pay me for doing the easiest things because they bought or won their gold. I was payed to do masters quests and such. One two hour hard quest net me 50k.

When Eye of the North came out I destroyer core farmed 500k in 4 days. When my cousin and I were rich enough to last us a while we crashed the market but posting on Guru forums and other forums on how to farm destroyer cores. Posting videos on youtube and advertising in town and teaching people how to do it.

Boy was that fun knowing how much of an impact two people can have on a entire economy.

Mar 13, 2008, 09:44 PM // 21:44	#1
rednfrosty Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Mar 2008 Profession: A/Mo	a question for gw pros/veterans I'm pretty new to the game, just got factions (yeah yeah I know, everyone keeps telling me it's the worst campaign. I'll get nightfall and prophecies soon enough lol). I recently got my character to level 20, took me a good few days to do so. Anyway, I was just curious as to how players have so much gold. With the little amount of gold that quests and missions give, as well as having to constantly update your weapons/armor, I'm just amazed at how there are so many people who have hundreds of thousands, or even millions of gold. Is it from playing for such a long time, that you've accumulated that much over the years? Do the quests/missions later on offer more gold? Is it really all just getting really good drops and selling them? lol I'm not saying I want to become like a millionaire in like a day and such. I just want to make sure I'm doing all I can to make more gold, cause honestly, I only have like 15k. And probably 1/3 of that came from two other characters I deleted. Even the drops I get aren't that rare to sell for a lot.So I'm wondering if I'm really doing enough. Armor and weapons cost so much, the materials too, so I'm just bewildered at how people can have that much gold to spend. Like right now I can't even upgrade my armor at Kaineng Center @_@. Anyway I was just wondering if any of you can give a newbie like me some advice. It's greatly appreciated =)

Mar 14, 2008, 04:54 PM // 16:54	#20
llsektorll Desert Nomad Join Date: May 2005 Location: Toronto, Canada Profession: R/	I am a farming hater so i never farmed anything till GWEN. I usually wait till a campaign releases then make money. Ok so before factions came out I ran Dunes of Despair mission a good 70x made around 600k. After factions I joined a luxon owning alliance to go into the deep and in one night of selling celestial weapons I made 900k (in 5hrs). NF came out I started running Gate of Anguish mission for 27k per run (40min runs). Did that around 80+ times... netting me near 2000k. I also found people willing to pay me for doing the easiest things because they bought or won their gold. I was payed to do masters quests and such. One two hour hard quest net me 50k. When Eye of the North came out I destroyer core farmed 500k in 4 days. When my cousin and I were rich enough to last us a while we crashed the market but posting on Guru forums and other forums on how to farm destroyer cores. Posting videos on youtube and advertising in town and teaching people how to do it. Boy was that fun knowing how much of an impact two people can have on a entire economy. Last edited by llsektorll; Mar 14, 2008 at 04:57 PM // 16:57..

Mar 13, 2008, 09:46 PM // 21:46	#2
Keekles Krytan Explorer Join Date: May 2005 Location: Floating amongst the ethereal seas of placating breezes. Guild: Like A [Boss] Profession: Mo/	Most of my money has come through playing through the campaigns on my characters. Lately, the largest source of income has been vanquishing, but I'm not exactly rich either. There's also farming that can generate money (I don't like farming though). EDIT: after playing since the game came out I'm still very poor =P

Mar 13, 2008, 09:47 PM // 21:47	#3
Alex the Great Jungle Guide Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: America.....got a problem with that? Guild: [Lite] Profession: W/	solo farming and high-end areas give a lot of gold. doing dungeons and getting the rewards (you must get Eotn) can get you some golds. you're lucky you got factions, because many of the needed farming skills come from there. I complteted factions on my warrior, and he made a total of 35k just doing missions and quests, so there is still hope.

Mar 13, 2008, 09:48 PM // 21:48	#4
Destromath Academy Page Join Date: Nov 2007 Guild: Grenths Dark Templars [GDT] Profession: W/E	I haven't really done it myself, but most of those people grind for it over the years. A popular way is to kill the Smite Crawlers in the Underworld as fast as you can for Globs of Ectoplasm. In fact, some people even record their times to see if it can be beaten >_>. Each ecto costs around 5k, so the money from farming Smites accumulates greatly over time. There's also just looking at what's in demand and farming for it as much as possible, then sell it for a high price. Chaos Axes, Dead Bows, and Voltaic Spears are very high in demand currently, I think (although any pros should correct me if I'm wrong about this).

Mar 13, 2008, 09:52 PM // 21:52	#5
quickmonty Ancient Windbreaker Join Date: May 2005	Just play the game, pick up everything that drops and don't buy anything you don't need. You should have enough for all your needs. After you have max armor, weapons and needed runes you should start accumulating some gold to store away. You may not get rich, but it isn't necessary to enjoy the game. Those that have a lot are sucessful farmers or high end traders.

Mar 13, 2008, 09:54 PM // 21:54	#6
C R A F T Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: The Citadel Profession: R/	I've only been playing for 27 months and I've gone from poor to rich to poor so many times I don't count anymore. Once you get your max armor (with all the runes and insignias) and max weapons (with max mods) it's time to settle down and make some gleaming gold!!! If money is the goal: make a MM Necro and go soloing. The more people in your party the more the loot gets distributed (even to henchies and heroes, minions don't count). Learn what to salvage and what to sell. Before selling a piece of armor with a rune on it, check the value of the rune to see if its worth salvaging and selling independently. Don't sell materials to a merchant, to the the (rare) material dealer and get a much better exchange rate. Use the auction board to sell stuff for greater value than a merchant will give you. The farther you get in the game, the more valuable the drops will be: good things come to those who wait.

Mar 13, 2008, 09:55 PM // 21:55	#7
Kook~NBK~ Grotto Attendant Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: A little chalet outside Drok's Guild: Natural Born Killaz	If you've got 15k after only palying for such a short amount of time, I'd say you're doing OK.

Mar 13, 2008, 10:09 PM // 22:09	#8
rednfrosty Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Mar 2008 Profession: A/Mo	wow thanks for the advice everyone. I didn't expect this many comments so soon =) I guess I'll have to keep playing and see what fortune lies ahead lol. Getting rich isn't necessarily my goal in gw (of course there's more to the game than just getting gold ^_^), it's more like, I want to have enough money to buy great armor/weapons without ending up broke every time I do so. Perhaps I should just be patient. ^^ It seems many of you have earned your gold over the course of time. I guess it just needs hard work and persistence. I've still got a long way ahead of me, only just finished the 4th mission. Hopefully by then I'll have been more experienced with selling and farming and such. again, thanks for the advice everyone. greatly appreciate you all taking the time to read and seriously respond =)

Mar 13, 2008, 10:17 PM // 22:17	#9
gremlin Furnace Stoker Join Date: Oct 2006 Guild: GWAR Profession: Me/Mo	They Farm for valuables for many hours usually in hard mode then they research item prices and do hard trading also for hours. The game is perfectly playable without having to become the gw equivalent of king midas, so its no big deal. I mean how much money does one character need, max armour and a few weapons are easy and the spells/skills are the only continuing drain on cash. Now if you want half a dozen suits of elite armour on all your henchemen for all you characters then you need to farm a lot then trade a lot. You will end up bored out of your mind with all the glitzy and glamorous items and maybe you will feel it was worth doing boring tasks many times over. Personally I think those that do that need therapy as such effort is only worth it for real money and to feed your family.

Mar 13, 2008, 10:21 PM // 22:21	#10
Kerwyn Nasilan Forge Runner Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: WHERE DO YOU THINK Profession: W/	Once (or if) you get EotN Ursan Blessing can make you lot sof money in DoA. Despite it's easyness and the drop of gems it is still a valuble source of cash. Got my new tormented sword worth bout 100k+10-15 ectos in a week of doing runs in my spare time (I do have alot of spare time though ) My next goal is obby which I hope to have in a few weeks. (DoA=Domain Of Anguish, end area of Nightfall and Ursan is an elite skill that replaces your bar with imba ursan skills) The way of getting massive money is High end trading, but that is just not feasible for some people.

Mar 13, 2008, 10:29 PM // 22:29	#11
Dem Babyz Iz Mine Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Ninth ring of the Abyss Guild: Underpaid Heroes [Hero] Profession: D/A	New weapons are fun and all, but unless it looks TOTALLY BITCHIN' I say... If it hurts, it works And farming is boring

Mar 13, 2008, 11:33 PM // 23:33	#12
Crom The Pale Furnace Stoker Join Date: Nov 2006 Guild: Ageis Ascending Profession: W/	Once you have Money it's rather easy to make money. Sounds a bit like real life but it is true. Once you've aquired enough wealth to purchase Max weapons + Max Mods for them and Max armor + the best Runes/Insignias you can basically just bank every gold coin from that point on untill something catches your eye and you spend it all. Then your back to banking every coin you earn. When I first started it took weeks for me to earn enough money to buy max weapons/armor and I still didn't have perfect mods for them. I took me almost 2 months to buy my guild hall and a full year to afford FoW armor. Now that I've got some nice weapons/armor and my hall is fully equiped I can bank 100K in a week with very little effort.

Mar 14, 2008, 02:15 AM // 02:15	#13
jiggles Desert Nomad Join Date: Sep 2007 Profession: N/	I agree with Crom, i owed a guild 158k as he lent me it for fow armour within a week or farming whenever i could be bothered and just questing whenever i wanted i only owed him 50k. Making money gets eaiser the longer you play. I'd also like to point out that factions newb island is the best for money as most of the quests give you a couplea hundred gold each. and as for 15k in a couple days, back when i started playing i thought 5k was a crapload of money for at least 4months

Mar 14, 2008, 06:08 AM // 06:08	#14
tmakinen Desert Nomad Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: www.mybearfriend.net Guild: Servants of Fortuna [SoF] Profession: E/	One important point is to realize that raising a character up to his/her full glory is pretty expensive, anything between 100k and 300k or even beyond depending on the number of skills you want to acquire. Any fancy armor and equipment past the standard (and perfectly adequate) fare comes on top of that. Thus it is nothing alarming if you're living from hand to mouth for a while. Once your character matures there's nothing else to dump money into than vanity items and as long as you keep playing the game normally the money will accumulate. Farming is strictly optional.

Mar 14, 2008, 07:07 AM // 07:07	#15
masta_yoda Banned Join Date: Feb 2007 Guild: most hated players in the [game] Profession: R/Mo	some 'oldschool' players have alot of money cause they farmed crazily b4 prot bond was nerfed..........

Mar 14, 2008, 07:22 AM // 07:22	#16
Admael Krytan Explorer Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: California Guild: Xen of Heroes	Not to mention depreciation of items/gold. I made a lot off runes and upgrades as well. I remember spending 65k to buy a "perfect" vampiric bow string.

Mar 14, 2008, 02:13 PM // 14:13	#18
IslandHermet Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Aug 2007	lots of money comes from many different sources. power trade (take 20k and turn it into a mill) most people power trade mini pets even the low end ones can get you started (bought a joko for 8k then sold it for 60k) Elite pve farming (once you get to the areas like UW,Fow,doa,urgoz,deep and get to know the areas you can bring in some very good money) Farming (doing this in a area in which you can kill 30 creatures real quick like a few mins and pick up all the drops, if you do this for a hour a day you can make very good money) most solo farms bring in 20k a hour or more depending on the area and how fast the build works. quests with rewards near 1-2k (doing dungeons most of the quests give 1.5k or a little more) Hard mode farming (this is good for gold farming as in gold weapons which can be sold for 4k for 7 or something like that) NM and HM Dungeons and of course the luck of a good drop helps alot.